Indian government issues warning to students not to choose Australia as their study destination as it is not safe.
A nine-year-old Russian girl was allegedly raped on Tuesday evening in Goa’s Arambol beach, a popular hub for foreign and domestic tourists. According to the complaint filed by the victim's mother, the girl was raped while playing in the waters. The mother said that as one Indian tourist struck up a conversation with her, another ventured in the waters and raped her child. None of the politicians or elders of the society have condemned this enough
On December 1, 2008, a Goan politician, John Fernandes, raped a 25-year-old Russian near Colva beach. Four (4) Australians have been killed in Mumbai terror attack in Nov 2008. In the past Australian missionary Graham Staines and his two sons were burnt alive in their car by Hindu extremists in Orissa and in 2004 Australian tourist Dawn Griggs was robbed, raped and murdered by two taxi drivers after arriving late at night at Delhi airport.
Many incidents like this have become quite common for us. Our politicians don’t bother to look into these nor issue any warnings to our own people. Foreigners in India are exposed to many bad experiences like cheating, begging, unhygienic conditions, lack of safety, robberies, racism etc.
But the few Australian attacks on Indians attracted more attention that any of the above, film stars, community leaders, politicians have all raised their voices on this. But again no one has raised any concerns on the rape of a 9 year old Russian girl in Goa which happened
Indians have been going to Australia from the past many years, never did we hear about incidents like this. But again today things have taken an ugly turn. For me it looks like Australian & Indian media are using these attacks for trashing each other.
The Australian attacks on Indian taxi drivers are examples of urban crime. Yes I agree that Indians are over-represented in robbery statistics and there is definitely a racist element to some attacks, but we must know the real reason for this. The behavior of a few Indian students has definitely a role to play in this all. It’s a common problem all over India and also abroad.
Indian students are allowed to drive cabs; many students especially from Punjab are into this. They are strangers to Melbourne and don’t know the routes very well, they also lack English fluency and they purely depend on the GPS system to know the routes. Some times the GPS only guides the cab thru the main routes and avoids shortcuts. These cabbies are exposed to drunk teenagers and gangs at nights, sometimes they take the long route and end up in fights / arguments with the passengers, some how even these are being reported as racist attacks.
Indian government and Australian government fail to understand these issues. The Australian government policies have too many loop holes and they are unable to come up with the correct measure to control such incidents. The attacks were stray incidents and small street brawls which have been given great importance. The Australian Immigration policy has also to be blamed in this, student visas were issued without proper checks and protocols. The result was that the quality of students that Australia absorbed from the past few years was really bad and hopeless. Its time they have a look into this and adopt a policy where good genuine Indian students wanting to study in universities and good institutes are encouraged and change their policies.
Media needs stories to sell and its like this in the entire world, it affects our lives for good and evil. The best way to solve this problem is to inform the masses of such a problem. And indeed, slowly but surely as time goes by, information drives have been conducted to educate the people of the growing dangers of misinformation
ReplyDeleteYes Vinod - Media is trying to create a hype
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ReplyDeleteMate, as a Chinese -Australian who lived, studied, work in Australia for 1/3 of my life,( I have a lot of friends in all races, Whites, Indians etc)
ReplyDeleteI do think Australia had racism problems, but still is a good country to live in rather than my home city Hong kong!( where I am now curently job seeking).
As for the atacks on Indian Students, I feel really sad and angry too about these attacks and the murder of Nitin Garg 6 months ago. ButI think we have to look at the underlying problems of the attacks which the Indian /Australian media fails to investigate.
This a very good article about this issue at crikey.com.au
http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/01/14/a-snapshot-of-the-neighbourhood-where-nitin-garg-was-killed/
Thursday, 14 January 2010 / 22 comments A snapshot of the neighbourhood where Nitin Garg was killed by Rob Burgess
In the late 1990s, a follower of Jack van Tongeren’s white supremacist Australian Nationalist Movement, convicted of blowing up his local Chinese restaurant in Perth, confessed in a TV documentary that he and his wife had later missed being able to eat there.
ReplyDeleteWhile there is a certain dark humour to the bomber’s lack of intelligence, the less funny truth is that racism is most easily propagated in less-educated communities. And the story not being told about the “racially motivated” murder of Indian accounting graduate Nitin Garg, is that the park in which he was stabbed is bordered by some of the poorest and most poorly educated suburbs in Australia.
Walk due east, and you walk through up-and-coming Kingsville and into the already gentrified Yarraville — sold by real estate agents with the slogan “Live nowhere else”.
Walk west or north-west and you find yourself in dusty Brooklyn, which boasts miles of industrial estates and a giant landfill site (source of the dust); Tottenham, where even the tattoo shop has closed down; and Braybrook, judged by one recent study to be the fourth poorest postcode in the country.
These western suburbs have long been a “vibrant multicultural community” in local councillor’s election speeches — and indeed they are, with shops, temples, restaurants and festivals brimming with people from Vietnam, Ethiopia, Sudan, India, Uygur refugees from China, and Karen from the Thai-Burma border — even a few shell-shocked Anglos escaping the high rents of St Kilda.
ReplyDeleteBut the flip side of all the “vibrancy” is that many of the new arrivals, and plenty of the older ones — including a well-established Anglo-Celtic and southern European working poor — do not have the education, community facilities and job opportunities that overseas critics of “racist Australia” would assume is the Australian birthright.
Veteran social worker Les Twentyman — who, with high-profile priest Bob Maguire, has offered to mediate between Garg’s killer and authorities to ensure proper legal process — told Crikey that “thousand of kids in these suburbs won’t be turning up on the first day of school in February because their parents can’t afford books, school uniforms or anything else”.
ReplyDeleteThe limited recreation facilities in the region concentrate listless kids in a few locations, says Twentyman, and gangs beckon for teens with limited education and no job prospects: “I’d like to see a program to give the jobs in the west to people in the west,” says Twentyman. “There’s an army of professionals who cross the Maribyrnong River every day to do the good jobs over here, then drive home again.”
Twentyman is one of the few voices in the Australian media maintaining Garg’s murder “may have been racially motivated”, though his elaboration on this point might surprise critics in India. “It could have been someone from any of the ethnic groups that killed him,” he says. “There’s a kind of a status thing between the poorer kids and the Indians. They see Indians working for department stores or debt collectors or banks — jobs they can’t get. They see Indian guys as physically weaker — easy to push around — and financially better off. And what have they got to lose? You’ve got kids arrive here from war zones — you meet kids who’ve seen their parents beheaded and who never get properly debriefed and counselled. They’re not scared of jail — after what they’ve seen prison looks like a five-star hotel.
“It’s the poor suburbs that have always had to digest these groups of people — the more you pour into one area the more it tops up the problems. I’d like to see it spread around the city more.
“Jobs, education and recreation are what give these kids something to live for besides joining gangs and getting into heroin. I’ve been warning about gangs and weapons here for 20 years. Now suddenly everyone’s saying ‘shit, what can we do about that’?”
Rob Burgess is commentary editor for Business Spectator and writes on education and social issues for the Guardian Weekly.
“…Twentyman is one of the few voices in the Australian media maintaining Garg’s murder “may have been racially motivated”…” Yet Twentyman - -or anyone - has no proof whatsoever of any racial element to this crime. This is made all the more implausible when one considers the ethnic make-up of the suburb the attack took place in. This guy was gutted like a fish from a single knife wound to the chest from the front. Nothing was stolen from him and he was ‘allowed’ to ‘flee’, eventually reaching his place of employment.Robbery clearly wasn’t the motive. Neither was murder (or he would not have been allowed to run).
That suggests he knew his attacker. It also points a possible cultural motive for the style of attack.‘Social’ workers
and media types are so quick to put crimes like this into a convenient ‘racist’ box.It helps explain their deep self-loathing. Yet they have been caught out time and again, most recently with the ‘attack’ in Essendon on an Indian male who swears he was attacked and burnt by four white males while sitting in his car. Wrong. That’s not what happened at all.
The current investigation will reveal the real truth.
I note Twentyman hasn’t made any impassioned pleas to the Indian authorites for the extradition to Australia of Indian national Puneet Puneet to stand trial for killing an innocent pedestrian whilst driving drunk.
“It’s the poor suburbs that have always had to digest these groups of people — the more you pour into one area the more it tops up the problems. I’d like to see it spread around the city more.
ReplyDelete“Jobs, education and recreation are what give these kids something to live for besides joining gangs and getting into heroin. I’ve been warning about gangs and weapons here for 20 years. Now suddenly everyone’s saying ‘shit, what can we do about that’?”
Rob Burgess is commentary editor for Business Spectator and writes on education and social issues for the Guardian Weekly.
All the talk in this case is (as usual) about the causes of the violence in this area but hardly anyone wants to talk about the solutions.
I personally find Twentyman to be one of the more irritating people on this planet but in this case agree with him wholeheartedly. The majority of issues our neighbourhood faces are resource based. Poverty is a massive driver of most of the social issues we have and the few people we have here to deal with the issues are ludicrously underfunded and over worked.
What services we do have here tend to have a tenuous existence thanks to funding. The most important community event in Braybrook - the Braybrook Big Day Out - was cancelled this year due to no funding. The council couldn’t even fund someone part time to try find sponsorship to run the event. This is despite a community survey findings that this is the most important community pride enhancing event on our calendar. The few programs we have for kids have limited funding runs or don’t run during school holidays when kids are most bored. No surprises the number one fun sport round here is smashing glass. It certainly doesn’t surprise me that crime and violence rates go up when schools out for summer.
And yes ethnicity is a big issue because our community has such diverse needs. Fifth generation welfare recipient european kids have totally different needs to the kids that grew up in Sudanese refugee camps. And sadly there isn’t the money to deal with both. So often care workers have to make the impossible choice. Naturally, resentment follows.
So while we see politicians on the tv condemning the violence and claiming that they’ll do something about it there’s never any money to back it up. Unless of course it’s in the form of policing. Which is not a long term solution by any stretch of the imagination. The use of Nitin’s tragic death to justify an already planned human rights abusing weapons sting last week was sickening and not what I, as a community member want to see going on.
I adore living in Braybrook. Compared to my previous location of Hawthorn I rate the quality of life ten times higher. The kids all play in the street instead of living in front of xboxes, we know our neighbours and I’m not likely to get run over by a Hummer Mama trying to drive an SUV while drinking a latte and talking on the phone, as I walk down the street. Sure it’s pretty poor round here, but at least it’s still the norm to say hi to people when you pass them in the street.
I look forward to the day that some of the fantastic community run programs that run of the smell of an oily rag and some serious local hard work get some much needed support from our local and state government. And we can start to address the fundamental issues that our community faces.
1: The worsening of the ctime in Australian Cities to villages and small towns in the last 20 yeras by the widening gap between the rich and poor, a VERY VERY HUGE AND SERIOUS DRUG PROBLEM affecing Aussie Youths/Teens/Young Men and women in all Races!
2: The incompentence, politicised and Corrupt Aussie police forces just denies all sorts of crime Problems in the last 20 years, especially those very very Senior Police officers, these bunch aren'nt even good leaders comapred with NYPD, LAPD Leaderships, they just want to keep their jobs bidding agressive in promotions and realased fake stats game in collusion with politicians to cheat the public of Australia that it is still a safe place! But It isn't!
“It’s the poor suburbs that have always had to digest these groups of people — the more you pour into one area the more it tops up the problems. I’d like to see it spread around the city more.
ReplyDelete“Jobs, education and recreation are what give these kids something to live for besides joining gangs and getting into heroin. I’ve been warning about gangs and weapons here for 20 years. Now suddenly everyone’s saying ‘shit, what can we do about that’?”
Rob Burgess is commentary editor for Business Spectator and writes on education and social issues for the Guardian Weekly.
All the talk in this case is (as usual) about the causes of the violence in this area but hardly anyone wants to talk about the solutions.
I personally find Twentyman to be one of the more irritating people on this planet but in this case agree with him wholeheartedly. The majority of issues our neighbourhood faces are resource based. Poverty is a massive driver of most of the social issues we have and the few people we have here to deal with the issues are ludicrously underfunded and over worked.
What services we do have here tend to have a tenuous existence thanks to funding. The most important community event in Braybrook - the Braybrook Big Day Out - was cancelled this year due to no funding. The council couldn’t even fund someone part time to try find sponsorship to run the event. This is despite a community survey findings that this is the most important community pride enhancing event on our calendar. The few programs we have for kids have limited funding runs or don’t run during school holidays when kids are most bored. No surprises the number one fun sport round here is smashing glass. It certainly doesn’t surprise me that crime and violence rates go up when schools out for summer.
And yes ethnicity is a big issue because our community has such diverse needs. Fifth generation welfare recipient european kids have totally different needs to the kids that grew up in Sudanese refugee camps. And sadly there isn’t the money to deal with both. So often care workers have to make the impossible choice. Naturally, resentment follows.
So while we see politicians on the tv condemning the violence and claiming that they’ll do something about it there’s never any money to back it up. Unless of course it’s in the form of policing. Which is not a long term solution by any stretch of the imagination. The use of Nitin’s tragic death to justify an already planned human rights abusing weapons sting last week was sickening and not what I, as a community member want to see going on.
I adore living in Braybrook. Compared to my previous location of Hawthorn I rate the quality of life ten times higher. The kids all play in the street instead of living in front of xboxes, we know our neighbours and I’m not likely to get run over by a Hummer Mama trying to drive an SUV while drinking a latte and talking on the phone, as I walk down the street. Sure it’s pretty poor round here, but at least it’s still the norm to say hi to people when you pass them in the street.
I look forward to the day that some of the fantastic community run programs that run of the smell of an oily rag and some serious local hard work get some much needed support from our local and state government. And we can start to address the fundamental issues that our community faces.
1: The worsening of the ctime in Australian Cities to villages and small towns in the last 20 yeras by the widening gap between the rich and poor, a VERY VERY HUGE AND SERIOUS DRUG PROBLEM affecing Aussie Youths/Teens/Young Men and women in all Races!
Here is the prof
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The rise of Middle Eastern crime in Australia
http://www.australian-news.com.au/Tim_Priest.htm
You must read this paragraph and see the similar Australia Governemnt response to Indians being attacked
"The similarities between the situation here, with the denial by the government of the extent and the implications of Middle Eastern crime, and the early situation in Los Angeles is frightening. What we saw with Cabramatta was the covering up of a major problem by this government, who only acted when the game was up. It's all about denial. If they can get away with covering up it saves them the worry of making hard decisions and spending money on fixing problems that have been allowed to fester for years. The rail system that Michael Costa now has to fix is yet another example.
There is no investment in the future. It is about looking good day by day. The Peter Ryan-style policing of day to day media spin is still present. No one seems to have the courage to say that this is a problem that we need to fix before it gets worse. The time when the Middle Eastern problem really takes root in this city, the point from which there is no return, just like Los Angeles, is but a few years away. The leaders of our government probably hope this will be another government's fault and that they won't be around to see their legacy. Maybe we should all buy a property in southern New Zealand.
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Here is another good commentary by a Ex Victoria Police officer Daiman Marrett
http://www.damianmarrett.com/
monday 4th jan 2010 01/04/2010
"Please Mr Hulls, don’t be telling people that Melbourne is still one of the safest cities in the world. It isn’t. In fact it has become a joke. Innocent people are being stabbed and killed simple for going about their business.
In the last couple of years we have heard all sorts of solutions being thrown around and sadly nothing has changed. After two years the big break through it a greater power for Police to search suspects for knives.
To know how weak our justice system has become all one needs to do is visit the courts for a day and observe defendants laughing and mocking victims from the dock.
Pubs and Nightclubs have not changed. It is still all about how much alcohol can be sold in the smallest amount of time. And when the trouble starts their solution is to throw them out onto our streets, pissed and angry for the rest of us to deal with. If these clubs don’t get the message then shut them down. But NO!, instead lets sign off on a few more huge clubs to open in 2010.
Tragically accounting graduate Nitin Garg, originally from the Punjab region of northern India, was set upon and stabbed about 10pm on Saturday in West Footscray. He was on his way to his job at a Hungry Jack's fast food outlet when he was attacked. He died a short time after arriving at the Royal Melbourne hospital.
Julia Gillard must be in some kind of time warp because the Australia we are all seeing is very different from the one she describes.
"This is a nation that welcomes international students,'' she said. "We want to make them welcome, this is a welcoming and accepting country.''
Sadly the amount of money that Australia relies on from international students will be the only possible cause for some change or hard decisions. We cannot afford to lose them. But sooner or later, if nothing changes we will.
Why is it that when we decide that our indigenous cannot look after themselves we take over, control them with new laws, limit what they can and can’t do and pretty much do this without consultation with them. Bit hypocritical the lack of action with this problem that obviously is getting worse."
Victorian educators in denial about weapons in schools
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No if the education is even in denial on the knofe problems, then we shouldn't be suprised or blame Australian governement in denial Indians being attacked
Plus the Australian Youth crime, alchohol, drug problems being indenial and out of control!
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PHILIPPA DUNCAN
February 07, 2010 10:03am
VIOLENT attacks on emergency services workers have become so frequent the ambulance service has compiled a list of addresses it does not send officers to without backup.
http://www.themercury.com.au/article/2010/02/07/126345_tasmania-news.html
3 The Judges in Australia have a huge part in this because from all these years they sent totally inadequate sentence to all sors of crminials which shows no deterant to all kinds of crime!
PS: I was intended to join the Police in Australia in 2001/2002, but when I found out from some ex serving Police and a few current serving Police that what it's like and they told me it isn't worth to join I gave up.
BTW, the old saying bt them is TJIF hwich means THE JOB IS FXXXED Which refelcts on the crime situation today in Aus.
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Do you say Australians are not racist ?
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